The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. This suggests the âoverboreâ charge could be leveled at the .28 Nosler, too, but then youâd have to stick the 7mm Rem. New 7mm Ultra Mag rifles are available from Remington and Montana Rifle Company. Style, panache and efficiency. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. 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This is probably too high for real world hunting, but we’ll use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). 1:9 308 Winchester 20 in. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. Nosler developed this cartridge to equal or exceed both the 7mm Weatherby and 7mm Remington Ultra-Mag plus fit into a .30-06-length action. Obviously greater the gap when using lighter bullets as they a shorter. 7-08 vs 28 Nos,its (drumroll) a foot and a half. If you want 7mm magnum performance, you’ll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. The situation is mule deer and elk hunting in the northwest and shooting within 400 yards. 7mm Reloading Components. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. 1/2 minute and 3150 with Berger 195's. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? But if you suspect a 26-inch barrel might be a bit unwieldy, wait’ll you haul around a 28-inch. With the 27 Nosler I think you would really have something different that is better and unique. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated “standard” velocity cartridges. I only know a few who shoot 7rums and they all shoot heavy for caliber rounds and find them to be very picky at times. Thanks in advance for input . I do like the nosler brass a lot even if it is pricey. I believe to get the most benefit out of the 28 nosler you need to have it chambered using a custom reamer with a longer throat to be able to utilize as much of the case as possible with the heavy for caliber bullets. Crown dent could be problem also. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. _____ Lynn Last edited by Ridgerunner665 on Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:10 am, edited 1 time in total. I re barreled a pre-64 model 70 Winchester to a 280 Ackley Improved about 5 years ago. And that means more powder. OK. Got it. I sold my 300 run and bought a 28 nosler, so far I am not regretting it. But he said if he slowed the bullet down to 3050fps he could get 7 reloads per brass. If memory serves me right RUMs and most high capacity magnums utilize a good gap between lands and bullet. Hi Everyone, I have a 7mm Rem Mag and am between the 140g or 160g Nosler Trophy Grade-Accubond ammunition. Shop Nosler Products. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. Clearly the 7mm Rem. I am under the impression that the 7mm generally shoots flatter within 500 yards. I personally like the nosler better because you don't have to use as much powder which should help in a little less recoil and still be able to get good velocities with a 25"-26" compared to needing a longer barrel to utilize the charge of the RUM. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. The last one he built would push the 195gr bergers to 3200fps, but he could only get 2 reloads per brass and then they were toast. JavaScript is disabled. I have seen some pretty impressive groups out of 300 RUMs and think they are inherently more accurate than the 7mm RUM at least that is what we have seen. LRH is a good source. 1:10 300 Winchester Magnum 26 in. Borescoping it will tell you what is there or not(carbon,copper or rifling) but not tell you if it will shoot. However wanted to see if anyone thinks the 140g will be too light for elk? We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020. Its made by Ogre Manufacturing in Milwaukee. Updated August 2018.The 7mm Practical is a cartridge of my own design. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. and a high B.C. Above the .270 and into the 7mm category (actually 7.2mm) is the 7 mm Weatherby Magnum based on the 300 H & H case and shoots a 139 grain head at 3300 fps and the 7mm Dakota which uses the same 404 Jeffrey Case as the 26 Nosler, it is smack between the 120 grain head with Mv of 3400 fps in the 7mm Dakota and the 139 grain head with Mv of 3300 fps. for my brand of hunting. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. If you had to pick one of these 3 cartridges which would you choose? The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsâjust faster. Few who own rifles chambered for the new cartridge and take good care of them will wear out a barrel during a lifetime of hunting. Have you checked for copper fouling? Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 7x57 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. If you’re going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 Krag Load Data; 308 Marlin Express Load Data; 300 Savage Load Data; ... 7mm RUM Cartridge Information. And that’s part of the reason 7mms are so popular. HuntPost® is a registered trademark. Once you get some freebore to seat the long, heavy bullets out, it really shines. Ron Spomer provides an in-depth look at Nosler's 7mm rifle cartridge, the 28 Nosler. And in the chambers of their rifles. Rebating the rim to 0.534 inch simplifies the production of rifle bolts since the rims of Holland & Holland-style belted magnums, such as the 7mm Remington and .300 Winchester, are the same diameter. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. Almost overnight the “seven em em” was on the lips of American hunters. They sharpened the shoulder angle. 1:10 300 WSM 24 in. You go long. While the 7mm RUM isn't loaded at the factory to be as fast it does have the higher powder capacity. The U.S.A. hasn’t fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. 1:10 24 in. I've brought several rifles back to life with Sweet's 7.62. That results in performance like this: Whoa grandma! It was initially developed between the years 2010 and 2011, then underwent further R&D towards optimum throat geometry with batch reamer production beginning in February 2017. This calls for a light rifle. In an article published in American Hunter magazine Max loads from both cartridges handloaded through identical rifles with the same length barrels(26 inches) are shown that the 7mm RUM is faster but only by 25 fps. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. The .28 Nosler is a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. I am planning on using the 195 Berger's at around 3050-3100 FPS. Mag. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent “wandering.” Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. I've not accurately counted range rounds but it's a lot..purchased shortly after caliber roll out. Mag. Quackillr gave me data. I have not done a 33 nosler, but have done plenty of 338 edges and rums. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. I personally like the nosler better because you don't have to use as much powder which should help in a little less recoil and still be able to get good velocities with a 25"-26" compared to needing a longer barrel to utilize the charge of the RUM. They share a maximum body diameter of 0.550 inch. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. Short, light barrels just don’t do justice to high temperature, high velocity, high pressure, overbore magnum cartridges. By accepting you will be accessing a service provided by a third-party external to https://www.huntpost.com/, Copyright 2016-2020. You are using an out of date browser. If not a 280 Ackley....then either a 28 Nosler or an STW. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. 1:9 7mm Remington Magnum 26 in. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. The 28 nosler is close to 7mm RUM but not quite there. This is not a rifle you want to weave through dog-hair timber. Seems as though you have only tried the lighter bullets, don't know for sure. Carefully spaced shots (don’t overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooter’s accuracy demands. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). Now let’s compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. A Coveted Moose Tag Reveals the Complicated Reality of Western Big-Game Hunting, Why a Shotgun Is the Best Option for Home Defense—Plus 3 Guns You Should Buy. This is Not a New Thing. All the info in that thread made my decision for me. 1:10 I spoke with a local smith on Friday about a future build, its going to be a Nosler 28. The only reason why I would choose the 7mm-300wm over the 28 Nosler is chamber life. Nosler supports this new cartridge with Nosler brass, Trophy Grade ammunition and M48 rifles in 26-inch barrel configurations. A barrel “shot out” for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. Compared against the familiar, 53-year-old 7mm Rem. Extremely accurate, quite a bit less recoil and almost the same as my 300 was with less powder. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. We Wanted to Change the Narrative”. 7mm-08 Remington 24 in. Second Place: 28 Nosler, 59.0 Points. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, I’d look harder at the RUM. This is Not a New Thing, Finding the Perfect Grouse Gun is a Lifelong Pursuit, “It Was About Representation. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. Guns - 7mm vs 300 win vs 28 nosler - Record holder Jim Richards shooting a 2.6872" group at 1000 yards (all in the 8 ring) with a 6mm Dasher and At 1000 yds. 28 Nosler Load Data is now available: 28 Nosler 150 Grain 28 Nosler 160 Grain 28 Nosler 168 Grain 28 Nosler 175 Grain But to really appreciate this, let’s run a trajectory chart out to some crazy ranges. Now let’s check out the 7mm RUM. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent âwandering.â Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. 1:9 28 Nosler 26 in. The 7mm Remington Ultra Mag uses a larger capacity case and, loaded to the same MAP, has the potential to outperform the .28 Nosler, although not by a lot. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. Worth considering. Mag. Mag. I’m sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. If you are well stocked on brass, stay RUM. And the if the numbers Nosler has provided on the two variants itâs releasing are on the mark, there is little arguing the cartridge has plenty of snap. MOA or less/ greater. It is based on the fat, belt-free 404 Jeffery case, but Nosler likely just started with the 7mm RUM which is itself a modified Jeffery. But they didn’t shorten anything. Improving 7mm Rem. I suspect throat issues. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads.
Or overall? I have a 7mm Mag that has a lot of throat erosion and fire cracking 7" up the barrel that still shoots 1" at 100yds with 3 shots. They are more alike than different. Re: 7mm rum Vs 7mm stw Vs 28 nosler by 1sikxt » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:09 pm Basically I got 7mm rem mag that I'm going to rebarrel I'm thinking one of the the faster 7mm cartridges with a fast twist for 165-195 gr projectiles will be used for hunting and a little bit of target shooting The company is billing the 28 Nosler as the most powerful 7mm cartridge available today. You must log in or register to reply here. I ended up sacrificing one of the custom 7mm R.E.M. Can't say about a 7mm rum but I don't think you would regret switching to 28 nosler. Tags: .28 caliber, 7mm, cartridge, elk hunting, Long Range, Nosler, up-armored elk Nosler has announced what it calls the âmost powerful commercial 7mm cartridgeâ: The .28 Nosler. I'd stay 7mm and rebarrel. Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. Mag., the .28 Nosler wins the muzzle velocity race by about 200 fps but burns roughly 18 grains more powder to do it. If low, then consider the Nosler. I had done (3 custom 7mm R.E.M. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldn’t you rather drive highway speed? 28 Nosler also uses the standard magnum bolt face (.540) instead of the larger .585 bolt face of the Norma. 28 Nosler Brass.280 Remington Brass.280 Ackley Improved Brass Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Hunting gifts received-letâs see/hear âem. I plan on seeing which one my rifle shoots best. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. The difference might surprise you. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. The RUM is just way yonder too overbore for me. But a .30 would be cool. I am ordering a 33 nos reamer for the 250 bergers, which kill like crazy by the way. The .28 Nosler is a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. with the same label, since it burns about 10 grains more powder than the .280 Rem. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. These are some impressive numbers. Barrels are like truck tires. After I get the copper out I like to polish the bore with JB compound. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. Mag. 1:10 300 PRC 26 in. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. The 28 Nosler is pretty much the same as a 7mm STW or a RUM, I've owned both and not really overwhelmed with either of them. Have you tried different bullet weights at different seating depths? I love them for elk. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. If budget is a concern, then the cheapest option in new rifles is Remington's 7mm Ultra Mag stainless SPS at $838, and since the 7mm RUM had more than a decade head start on the .28, there are some Ultra Mags available on used gun racks and on Internet resale sites. Keep it RUM, go .30 or .338. mtmuley. Mag. was a little overboard). I have not kept an accurate record of the number of rounds fired, but it has accounted for a lot of game during the past 27 years, including a record-book interior grizzly in Alaska in 2010. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. They are all throwing the same bullets more than hard and fast enough for anything. The 28 Nosler has an average chamber life of no more than 500 rounds. Is it a factory or custom gun to start with? It's too nice of a rifle to give up on and I won't sell it if not up to snuff performance wise. But despite the best of efforts, case loss will be high due to wrinkling. No better though. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Minuteman. Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:53 am . More than simply 'magnum power', the 7mm Practical has been engineered to produce a high degree of inherent accuracy, versatility, long term wear and user friendliness. Have Ryan Pierce rebarrel, blueprint, and bed. Nosler really hampered the performance of that round with the 3.340" COAL length. 1:9 280 Ackley 26 in. This is a long-range dream cartridge for sure. 7mm Bullets . Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. I’d be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. Full-magnum action long. The rebarrel price is a wash. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. The problem is brass for the rum and the cases are so long for the edge I really prefer it as a single shot. I've recently found Enviroclean FA works well without the stink. Post subject: 7mm Rem vs 7mm Weatherby. Or....... Rebarrel said RUM, still staying 7mm in the RUM, and throat for the 195 grain Berger Elite Hunter. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the “elk killing minimum” of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . I will say if you want to keep it a RUM do like mtmuley says and go to the 300 or 338. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. Your results may vary. The new Berger 245 grain .30 would make up my mind. mtmuley, Check out what the 215 and 230 Berger can do. In 2015, Nosler created its new .28 Nosler by necking up the .26 Nosler caseâitself a derivative of the 7mm RUM case, which descended from the .404 Jeffery. Power, ac⦠might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. 215's are on my to do list. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. Mag. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. BC in the .8's. We’ll use a 10-inch diameter target zone for computing Maximum Point Blank Range. I believe to get the most benefit out of the 28 nosler you need to have it chambered using a custom reamer with a longer throat to be able to utilize as much of the case as possible with the heavy for caliber bullets. 1:10 243 Winchester (left-handed) 24 in. It is ammonia based so ventilation is nice. 175 gr. The additional reach is tempting, but I’d pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. HuntPost.com, Inc. All rights reserved. All we know is it's a 7 RUM that doesn't shoot to your expectations which are you didn't say what that is. PX Member. I can step up to a 30 magnum and do better for the same price in recoil. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. Going NOS may require a bit of work for feeding (as read elsewhere). That’s the 7mm magnum advantage. The .28 Nosler case can be formed by running 7mm RUM or .300 RUM cases through a .28 Nosler full-length resizing die with its expander/decap assembly removed and then trimming to the proper length. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, let’s establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. The 175-grain 28 Nosler is topped with an AccuBond LR bullet and has a muzzle velocity of 3,125 fps. The 7mm-300wm chamber life is supposed to be around 1500 rounds (because of cartridge design). It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. Thanks! Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. The .308 just has to be quite a bit heavier. with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. You already have a Mashburn....what more do you need? Mag. The 28 nosler is close to 7mm RUM but not quite there. Is Handloading Rifle Ammunition Really Worth It? It also has a small dent on the interior concentric of the crown...factor? Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. Oct 10, 2007 1,136 772 CEO Team waffle house. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Those are some impressive numbers. As you might guess, there isn’t much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. It's been Mickey'd and Kampfeld'd but not bedded. benchmstr Sergeant. But you pay the price in recoil and that 26-inch barrel. 1:8 300 RUM 26 in. .284 bullets to fit the bores of all 7mm cartridges come in a wide variety of shapes and weights from 100 grains to 180 grainsâadequate for everything from coyotes to big bears. Mag. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. 1:10 30 Nosler 26 in. Mag. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. I've seen what that other 7 you have will do. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm — and especially 7mm. Factory ammo is advertised as being higher in velocity for the 28 Nosler. They straightened the sidewalls. Ron Spomer. mtmuley. With full power factory loads or equivalent reloads, expect barrel life to ⦠Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloader 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Here's the thing...have a 7 RUM Ultra that, to be truthful, has never achieved geek accuracy and it seems to be getting worse. So how do you choose among these three? Like the 7mm STW and 7mm RUM, the .28 Nosler is seriously over-bore. The goal of the 26 & 28 Nosler® cartridges was to introduce something to the shooting sports industry that took full advantage of new technology available to shooters today including the advance of optics, reticle systems and of course high Ballistic Coefficient (B.C.) Would the 300 prc recoil be greater than 28 nosler on a scoped rifle in the 9.5 pound range? The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. .672., MV 2,900 fps. Let’s compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Partition (.519 BC/.310 SD) at 3125 fps. To be fair,they only got 2725 with the 7mm-08,and 3195 with the 28 Nos So I ran the 10 mph 1000 yd wind numbers 7mm-08 : 82 in drift,7.8 MOA 7mm Rem Mag:72.5 in drift,6.9 MOA 28 Nos 64.4 in drift,6.1 MOA So,at 1000 yds,7-08 vs 7mm Rem mag, drift is approx 7 ft vs 6 feet. Fill this with 88 grains of slow burning Reloader 33 powder and, according to the Nosler Reloading Guide 8, you should get 3,211 fps from a 26-inch barrel. You might think Remington started the 7mm cartridge trend in 1962 with its famous 7mm Remington Magnum, but by then the 7mm Mauser was already well known. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276”. Based on the same case as the .26 Nosler (itself based on the .404 Jeffery) , marketing literature for the round claims a performance of 160 grains at 3,300 feet per second from a 26â³ barrel. mtmuley. When I add this up, I default to the 7mm Rem. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. I'm in the process of having a 28 nosler built. GJ. 7mm vs 300 win vs 28 nosler.
During firing, the bullet had to free-travel 0.120 inch prior to engaging the rifling. Letâs compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. These are specialized cartridges for specific missions. As with any of the âsuper magnumâ sized cartridges that are necked down to smaller calibers, slow powders will work best. You don't suggest a round count? Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. And more recoil. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. without laser assistance. to add 200 ⦠It shoots farther, ⦠Unless you measured the throat before you fired it, measuring now wouldn't tell you much. performance without stepping up to a full magnum length cartridge and rifle action was Nosler’s goal. 1:10 30-06 Springfield 24 in.